12/14/07

Religion and Politics



I do not understand why the Republican candidates have to prove which of them loves Jesus more. I thought there was a separation of church and state but as usual I must live in a dream world.


Hey don't get me wrong I think it is great if you have faith in your religion - more power to you but WOW it shouldn't dominate the issues!


Now I know that the picture above is a tad bit on the irreverent side but then I am a little scamp in that department.


13 Comments:

LET'S TALK said...

Sorry I have not been around lately, my DSL is really giving me the blues.

About this post, I agree with your point about the separation of church and state, and this thing about whom has the right faith or stronger faith is just a little too much regardless to whom is doing it.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Thanks lets talk. I just wish that religius conviction was not a major talking point or proof that you are a good American citizen, just that you believe the in Christian God. What about the Americans that are just as patriotic but believe in a different God or none at all?

Diamond Dave said...

Interesting pic. It could hold various meanings...
1)The GOP is crapping religion out of it's butt and thus it is just a bunch of crap.
2)The moral majority is kissing the butt of the GOP(most likely the opposite.

All in all... I would say that the GOP knows that Bush pulled heavily on the moral values of the south in the last election. I live in the "Bible belt" and if you're good with God... you are today's chosen son.

By the way; ever notice how in poorer nations as well as our poored south, religion is strong? But afterall; when you have nothing in this world... you believe strongly in the next.

Diamond Dave
Heathen raised in God's house.

LET'S TALK said...

It seems that a cold rush has started to blow over those that are claiming Religion right now.

The conservative party has started to take a close look and talking points about Romney and his flip flop positions. Ann Coulter and others are now starting to talk about Huckabee and Thompson in a negative way.

Fox has backed away from the support for Giuliani. Leaving only Limbaugh to support him at this time.

I guess McCain should start to move up on the National polls.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

I saw this cartoon as Religion kissing GOP's butt. Too many people in this country are more concerned with the religious values or stance that a politician has rather then if this politician is competant to lead. I think that Religious conviction has no place in this race or any. You rarely see a local Mayor touting his faith to the masses, rather you see what HE/She can do for their city.

Eric A Hopp said...

Jude:

Are YOU SURE it is Religion kissing the GOP's butt? Looks to me like the GOP is taking a major crap, and out is coming a fish--a religious fish! Next thing you know, the GOP will try walking on water.

On a more serious note, Remember that the GOP really only has three issues--God, Guns, and Gays. Those are the three main issues that the national Republican Party will talk about--The GOP has GOD on their side, we'll let you keep your guns, and the gays are to be blamed for anything (or immigrants, or any other group outside of the WASP). It is really the only way that the Republican Party can keep its voters, considering that their major benefactors to the Party is corporate elites and the ubber-rich. For everyone else, the GOP has been a failure.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

You know this picture says many things to people. I think whoever the artist was definatley wanted to stir things up a bit.

John said...

I'm with you on this one. Don't tell me what your religious beliefs are, just show me how they make you live like a good person. I have said many times that spirituality is wonderful, but religion sucks. I like the pic.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Thanks John! I found that one on a MySpace page and I stole it! Am I going to go to hell??? Let's ask Huckabee. He seems to be the moral majority these days.

justwhodoithinkiam said...

Jude:

Yeah, let's ask dear ol' Convenent Marraige man himself, shall we?
Oh dear Lawdy...NOOOO!!!!

WTF is up with these dufuses anyway?

Sure, while Adams claimed that statesmen "may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand."

(As pointed out by Hukabee in a recent nationally televised interview)

But one must also remember Adams and Jefferson said many a thing to remind us that this nation was NOT founded on ANY ONE Specific religious view and worried that those to come after them would do to this nation what was done to England. At the time this nation was founded, England was a theocratic government.
Or have we all forgotten WHY the USA was established in the first place?

I'm saddened and frightened at the religious fanatisism in politics these days.

I pay an exhorbinant tax rate simply because my life-partner is not seen as my legal spouse. Why?
Oh yeah...because Clinton's RELIGIOUS lobbies reminded him that they controled the majority vote and the idea of MY Private Life was somehow up for Public Approval!!

Yup, religious zealots are the root of all evil. (How ironic, eh?)

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

People do seem to forget that you can have a personal sense morality that has nothing to do with a conventional religion.

I had an invigorating conversation with the Plumber tonight and he said he strongly believes that man evolved into a soicetal moral code- one not neccesarily buit on a belief in an established god. The cavemen figured out quickly if they stole their neighbors meat their butts got kicked pretty soon there was a law in their society- no stealing.

And it sucks about you and your life partner not being recognized by the law. Many of my gay friends have longer relationships than most heteros!

It is sad that we have bigoted zealots in our midst. And even scarier that these same zealots forget how the Country was really established and why.

Check out my other post Religious Bigotry.

Erin said...

Democrats do it too! Hilary, Barak, and Edwards have ALL done appearances at big churches talking about how much they love Jesus and how they have to take back Jesus from the Republicans.

I get so sick and tired of hearing that Republicans use Christianity, but nobody even mentions that the democrats do too! Can we ever forget the images of John Kerry in a black inner city church trying to get down with the soul? Its the exact same thing!

Jesus isn't a republican or a democrat dude, and I'm tired of ALL the political folks trying to line Jesus up with their party. What a crock.

I'm a religious woman, but I am almost always turned off when politicians try and bring Jesus on the campaign trail with them.

Oh and I HATE it when people on the right say that Jesus is mostly interested in abortion and gay marriage, and people on the left say that Jesus is mostly interested in the environment and the poor. truth is, Jesus isn't a politician, he wouldn't be a member of any political party because BOTH political parties are so freggin far away from where HE is that they couldn't find him if they tried.

But I would like to see some more honesty in the discussion of religion and politics. it isn't only the republicans who use Jesus and religious people, the democrats do just as much, and they are in my opinion much more offensive about it. They go to these large inner city churches and claim to be sooo close with Jesus. But when you really look at it, they haven't been in a church since the last time they campaigned a la John Edwards. At least it feels more real coming from Huckabee than it does from Hilary Clinton

I don't care if my president is a religious person or not. I couldn't care less and I consider myself a pretty religious Christian. Because my walk is my walk and I'm not out to judge someone else based on how often they go to church. But don't lie to me about it. Don't try to convince me something is true that obviously isn't.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Bravo Erin!!!

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