11/26/07

Lake and Halsted - Update

"...I THOUGHT ABOUT STRONG ARMING A HO...A NOSEY WOMAN HAVING NO DAMN SENSE TRYING TO PUSH ME...THE STATES ATTORNEY TRYING TO GIVE A BROTHER THE SHAFT AGAIN - WITH A HALF-A-MIL FOR BAIL CAUSE I'M AFRICAN - ALL BECAUSE THIS WOMAN WAS HARASSIN' HIM..."
...LET ME TELL YOU DUDES WHAT I WOULD DO TO PROTECT THIS...
SHOOT AT YOU HATERS AND DARE YOU TO STEP TO US!""

Nice words right? Well they are the latest in scare tactics that the Chromium bar at Lake and Halsted in Chicago, is employing in the form of a pamphlet handed out Thanksgiving night to its patrons. Basically it is instructing its idiot bar goers to shoot the haters meaning Kathy Kozan and her neighbors that have trying for three years to shut this despicable place down. http://www.lakeandhalsted.com/

In my previous blog Grassroots: The People at the Common Level,I spoke of how courageous these folks were. By taking the matter into their hands when the aldermen, mayor and other powers to be in Chicago ignored them. But now they are getting blatent death threats - nice!

The promotor that prepared this inflammatory program is named Charlie Chase and if you care to let him know what you think of his stupid idiotic idea to promote a violent and ignorant nightclub you can contact him here - maxamillionproject@hotmail.com

Oh and of course there are the aldermen that can't seem to be able to protect their ward's community but then again, Alderman Walter Burnett at wburnett@aldermanburnett.com seems to not want to do anything disruptive at his "favorite" nightclub! Seems he has a few political fundraisers there and maybe a few dollars went into his political stockpile. Time will tell on that front. Money Talks people, the Bullshit keeps walkin' here in the Chi-Town!

And they said that Chicago was cleaning up its corruption. NOT!! I bet the Olympics Committee would be very interested in seeing how the CITY of Chicago handles these latest threats to their own citizens.

16 Comments:

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Mini Update since last night. Dear Kathy said she is afraid of getting shot but she won't give up! Cheers to you Kathy! She brought the pamphlet to Area 12 police and they told her it was a form of assault and will be speaking with the promoter slash investor(????) tonight. Hmmmmm... What will be the backlash of that I wonder. More ignorance?

LET'S TALK said...

I washed the two video's and was left with fears of this type of thing going on where I live. I am sure it does, its just that I am not around such things.

Most nightclubs are more under control here or they are shut down.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

There is definately some money being changed across hands here in Chicago. The saddest part of this is that it took three long years to have it brought to light. Chicago is full of corruption and it is the citizens of the city that suffer the most.

SAM said...

I've read the flyer from the lakeandhalsted.com site and don't think any assault is being direct towards Kathy, in fact it a song or rap. So don't Spend 2 much time looking into something thats nothing, no one is stupied enought too put out a flyer for an event with there company and personal name on it with threats, too many people are involved!!!

Tom said...

Sam, I too read the flyer and I see a corellation between the rap lyrics and what has happened on this street between the club and its neighbors. It seems more than just a coincidence that the lyrics speak of a confrontation with the States Att. and "nosy neighbor". Did he break any laws? No.
Was it a stupid thing to do considering the past problems they have had. Yes. It seems some people are just that stupid.

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Sam if it were anywhere else on the radio or published in a legitimate prose site I would say "Sure, he is just writing rap" but what exactly does the verse "THOUGHT ABOUT STRONG ARMING A HO...A NOSEY WOMAN HAVING NO DAMN SENSE TRYING TO PUSH ME..." say. The police feel there is a threat so I am thinking that this person who wrote his eloquent verse must have a few screws loose or is so arrogant he feels that he is untouchable. It is not neccessarily the author that is the idiot, but the bangers and drunken idiots that seem to be easily persuaded into anything. By publishing a program of this ilk leads to making a impression on those less intelligent. Its called inciting violence

SAM said...

OK..OK.. FROM THE FLYER @http://lakeandhalsted.com/press/12-1-07_Chromium_pg4.gif, Now once upon a time, not too long ago/i thought about strong arming a ho/this ain't no ho in the sense of having a p****/but a nosey woman having no sense trying to push me.../YOU KNOW THE TYPE/ STAY UP ALL NIGHT/SITTING IN HER WINDOW WAITING TO RECORD A FIGHT.../ SEE IF YOU REALLY READ THE FLYER AND YOU CAN BECAUSE, WHEN YOU GO TO THE PAGE IT ZOOMS IN FOR YOU. READ IT FROM TOP 2 BOTTOM BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE VERSE COMPARE IT 2 THIS ONE http://www.azlyrics.com/j/jayz.html
VERSE 3 [Verse Three]
Now once upon a time not too long ago
A nigga like myself had to strong arm a hoe
This is not a hoe in the sense of having a pussy
But a pussy having no God Damn sense, try and push me
I tried to ignore him and talk to the Lord
Pray for him, cause some fools just love to perform
You know the type loud as a motor bike
But wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight
The only thing that's gonna happen is i'mma get to clapping
He and his boys gon' be yapping to the captain
And there I go trapped in the kit kat again
Back through the system with the riff raff again
Fiends on the floor scratching again
Paparazzi's with they cameras snapping them
D.A. tred to give the nigga the shaft again
Half-a-mil for bail cause I'm African
All because this fool was horrasin them
Trying to play the boy like hes saccarin
But ain't nothing sweet 'bout how I hold my gun
I got 99 problems but being a bitch ain't one
Hit me

NOW I'M NOT SAYING WHO'S RIGHT AND WHOS WRONG, BUT IT A SONG AND STILL IN ALL I WOULDN'T WORRY

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Lyrics in songs have a long history of inciting the populace to riot whether it is in a local or national venue, people are affected and spurned to action by the poet's verse.

Look at the rallying cries throughout history.

"War" what is it good for and "Hey Hey" LBJ how many kids you kill today were chanted repeatedly during the 1968 Convention riots where many protestors were seriously injured. Phil Ochs in 1960 inspired thousands to tear up their draft cards with his song "I'm Not Marching Anymore".

"You, telling me the things you're gonna do for me.
I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see.
Takin' it to the streets, takin' it to the streets,
no more need for runnin', takin' it to the streets.

Take this message to my brother.
You will find him everywhere.
Wherever people live together,
tied in poverty's despair."

And taking it to the streets they did. The rallying cries to gather together and fight the oppressor is in the true sense a honorable thing to do in the poet's mind but in some instances it can lead to the general population to rise up and revolt.

Now if these lyrics in the Chromium program are only just a work of art why are they aimed towards a single person and embroiled in a situation that is already a hotbed of controversy and violence?

Just as my post was created to incite indignation, do you not think the writer of the program also wanted to incite a little backlash of his own?

The author knew what he was doing when he wrote those lyrics, knew that it ruffle some feathers and I sure he is quite the happy cat sitting back watching the show.

Sam, I appreciate you writing your views on this subject. It is not much of a challenge to have a one-sided conversation. Thanks!

SAM said...

DEAR JUDE I WASN'T TRYING TOO PUSH YOUR BUTTONS ON THIS SUBJECT...

JUST WRITING HOW THING CAN BE MIS INTERPRETED (I GOT 99 PROBLEMS and LAKEANDHALSTED.COM AIN'T ONE!)

THIS IS A TITLE, ITS A SONG. THERE'S NO THREAT,WHY BECAUSE HE SAID I {THOUGHT} ABOUT STRONG ARMING A HO... KEY WORD IS IN BRACKETS OR {A NOSEY WOMAN HAVING NO DAMN SENSE TRYING TO PUSH ME}

WE CAN GO ON ON ABOUT THIS, I CAN QUOTE SONGS AND SO CAN YOU, IN FACT WHEN THE KATHY QUOTE

{LET ME TELL YOU DUDES WHAT I WOULD DO TO PROTECT THIS...
SHOOT AT YOU HATERS AND DARE YOU TO STEP TO US!""}

HE SAID NOTHING ABOUT LAKEANDHALSTED.COM http://lakeandhalsted.com/press/12-1-07_Chromium_pg6.gif}

NOW IF IT WAS ON THE SAME PAGE AS "...I THOUGHT ABOUT STRONG ARMING A HO...A NOSEY WOMAN HAVING NO DAMN SENSE TRYING TO PUSH ME...THE STATES ATTORNEY TRYING TO GIVE A BROTHER THE SHAFT AGAIN - WITH A HALF-A-MIL FOR BAIL CAUSE I'M AFRICAN - ALL BECAUSE THIS WOMAN WAS HARASSIN' HIM..."@http://lakeandhalsted.com/press/12-1-07_Chromium_pg4.gif

THEN I WOULD SAY OK YOU GOT ME, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY ITS A THREAT TO YOU, WHEN THE SUBJECT IS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE!!!! READ IT WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT LAKEANDHALSTED.COM KEY WORDS ARE {WOMAN,SHE,&LAKEANDHALSTED}

PG6 HE TALKS ABOUT WHERE HE COMES FROM HATERS DRY SNITCHING MEANING OTHER PROMOTERS IN THE SAME BUSINESS HAS HIM SAYING HIS PARTYS ARE WACK QUOTE {I GOT ALL HATERS DRY SNITCHING MY NAME/THATS RIGHT CHAAAAASE/NOT CK PLEASE.../BUT SIMILAR TO THEM LETTERS/ NO ONE CAN DO IT BETTER/

THATS WHY I SAID READ THE FLYER BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT

So don't Spend 2 much time looking into something thats nothing, no one is stupied enought too put out a flyer for an event with there company and personal name on it with threats, too many people are involved!!!

AND YOUR RIGHT It is not much of a challenge to have a one-sided conversation. HOPE YOU GO AND REALLY READ THE FLYER THIS TIME!!!!

SAM

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

No buttons are being pushed. I just also want you to know that I appreciate the two viewpoints. You should write your own blog about this, I would be interested in reading. And Sam, stop shouting!

Jude's BlogLoggin said...

Real quick question Sam. In one of your paragraphs you said that there was not a threat toward me. Your quote "Then i would say ok you got me, but how are you going to say its a threat to you, when the subject is about something else!!!!" leads me to believe you think I am the one who feels threatened when that is not the case.

This blog and my previous blog, Grassroots, has always been about LakeandHalsted.com, primarily Kathy Kozan, fight to clean out her neighborhood's violence.

Ok. I re-read the pamphlet and LakeandHalsted.com is sprinkled throughout the verse. I wanted to see it through your eyes if I could be unbiased to read it as if it were a poetic verse. I still feel that the "implication" of threat is there.

I am glad that Mr. Chase has 99 problems and lakeandhalsted.com is not one of them but if that is the case then why even mention this website in his “song”. On page 4 he does talk about “strong armin' a ho” and the “nosey women” right after his 2 part monologue with a fictitious cop.

Now since Lakeandhalsted.com despite being a neighborhood watch group, the main target is the editor Kathy Kozan who spearheaded her grassroots organization to clean up the after hours violence and destruction to her and her neighbors property.

So even the mere mention of LakeandHalsted.com or the alliteration of the nosey woman would strongly point towards Lakeandhalsted.com which in turn falls at the editor, Kathy Kozan's feet.

Was the writer expressing free speech? Yes. Is this an offense to be arrested for? No. Does Kathy Kozan and her neighbors feel a threat, implied or otherwise? Yes. Does this implied threat come on the heels of many years of violence by patrons of this bar who repeatedly destroyed property belonging to Kathy and her neighbors? Yes

If many others besides Kathy Kozan, the Area 12 Police, or the neighbors of this establishment feel a certain threat that is "implied" in the guise of a "song" then how can you say that some idiot fueled up on booze is not going to take the "song" to heart and defend his watering hole from big bad Kathy Kozan?

And if it was just an advertisement for a great party as the writer states in page 3 of the program, then why did he not just leave it at that. Why fuel whatever neighborhood fires that had already been started by the violence that goes on week after week. It seems to me that this author is trying to be a tough, cool guy and would have remained so if he had just stuck to the fact that he wanted to put on a cool party. Instead, to me, he comes off as a thug hiding behind his “song’.

John said...

Hey Chooch! I'm with you all the way on this one. Of course I can't really imagine any other position. I think you are right and Sam might not be, not that it makes that much difference. I almost take it personally to see this kind of obvious corruption in the Windy City when you would like to be able to trust our elected authority. Something surely has gone awry.

Jude's Blog Log said...

Thanks John but I think we lost Sam. My husband told me to reread the program which I did actually 3 times over and my conclusion is the same. I do believe Mr. Sam may be connected in some way and is only defending his friend. Tonight's "party" at the Chromium Nightclub will a tesatament to the "control" that the owners have promised to exercise but I am also sure that this area will be crawling with police officers.

Jude's Blog Log said...

All is quiet on the Western Front. Saturday night's weather brought out a less lively crowd but it could also be the fact that Area 12Police strategically placed paddy wagons in front of the bar and in driveways of the residents.

SAM said...

HELLO 2 ALL I BACK, HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT WEEKEND..NOW I WENT 2 THE LAKEANDHALSTED SITE LOOKING GOOD SO FAR, NO BAD NEW. TOLD YOU IT WAS A JUST A FLYER NOW! I'M WORKING ON A BLOG ALSO SO ONCE ITS READY I WANT YOU GUYS TO CHECK IT OUT.

NOW DOWN 2 BLOGGIN

I'M THINKING WHAT WILL BE THE OUT COME OF THE AREA? I MEAN, THERE'S STILL 2 NIGHT CLUBS 1 RIGHT NEXT DOOR 2 THE CHROMIUM CALL SHADOW BAR WITH THE SAME CROWD. SO HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY CLOSING ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, IS MONEY BEING CHANGED ACROSS HANDS HERE ON LAKE AND HALSTED Hmmmmmm... WHAT WILL BE THE BACKLASH OF THAT I WONDER.

Jude's Blog Log said...

Welcome back Sam! Thought we lost you and I am looking forward to your blog, I am sure it will be very interesting considering you have a wide range of opinions.

Actually ShadowBar lodged their own complaints against Chromium. Their security and valet had a few terrorizing momemts in the past. I think if anything the 2 remaining nightclubs will listen and learn on this one. The owners of nightclubs, bars, etc are ultimately the ones responsible for their patron's behaviour. There was probably some really great people that worked at Chromium but it only takes a few jerks to ruin it for everyone.

PS: Sam you keep shouting. (all caps)

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